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Sunday, May 4, 2008

Comparison of John Doyles who served in the Revolution

I am putting these comparisons here so that people can see the differences in the John Doyles who served in the Revolution. Most of this information is from DAR records. Some is from pension records and the information on John D. Lee's ancestor is from research Stella and I did. This newer information on John D. Lee's ancestor, John Doyle, was submitted to DAR in 2007.

No wonder the differences between these four John Doyles has been difficult to sort out. Two came from Pennsylvania, but only one was born there, both served with Pennsylvania troops. Two were born in Virginia, two served with George Rogers Clark, but in different locations, one was born in Maryland and another was married in Maryland, two were privates and two were officers!


1) DOYLE, JOHN (Grandfather of John D. Lee)

Service: VIRGINIA

Rank: PRIVATE

Birth: 1760 Albemarle Co. Virginia

Death: 20 Oct 1819 KASKASKIA RANDOLPH CO ILLINOIS

Service Description: CAPT THOMAS, COL GEORGE ROGERS CLARK

Wife: Chloe Smith.

Parents: Dennis Doyle and Katherine

Children: Elizabeth Doyle Reed Lee and Charlotte Doyle Conner

Note: John D. Lee and Charlotte Doyle Conner filed for a pension for John Doyle. It went to Congress, but was lost in committee. Actions taken are available in the American State Papers.

Note 2: It has long been known that John Doyle married a Smith, a daughter of Henry Smith. Charlotte and Elizabeth, John D. Lee's aunt and mother, inherited land from Henry through their mother. John D. Lee and his sister Eliza also inherited part of the land when their mother died.

2) DOYLE, JOHN

Service: PENNSYLVANIA

Rank: CAPTAIN

Birth: 10 May 1758 WEXFORD IRELAND

Death: 12 May 1850 PHILADELPHIA, PHILADELPHIA CO, PENNSYLVANIA

Service Description: INDEPENDENT CO

Wife: Anna Marie Walsh

Child: James

Notes: There was a John Doyle from Pennsylvania that became a Major. He also went back to Pennsylvania and died. He had several documents in the American State Papers dealing with Congress. This could be the same person. This person could possibly have filed a pension, although it is not listed in DAR records. He was alive late enough to apply.

3) DOYLE, JOHN

Service: MARYLAND

Rank: PRIVATE

Birth: 1748 MARYLAND

Death: 3 Jun 1837 KNOXVILLE KNOX CO TENNESSEE

Pension Number: *S38665 Filed for the pension in person

Service Description:1) CAPT LYNCH
2) COL SMALLWOOD, Lt COL FORREST

This John Doyle had two wives. The first wife is unknown, but the second wife was Evaline Formwalty.

Known children for him are James, John and William. Apparently they are all children of the first wife.

Note: Did not sign his name, but made a mark. This is one of the John Doyle's our John Doyle has been confused with the most. Our John Doyle has had Evaline listed as his wife.


4) DOYLE, JOHN (John Dyal - Descendants are Doyals)

Service: PENNSYLVANIA

Rank: PRIVATE (Later became an officer)

Birth: 27 Nov 1762 WINCHESTER - FREDERICK CO VIRGINIA

Md: on 6 Apr 1797 Christine Davis b. 12 Mar 1778 at Cecil Co. MD

Death: 8 Dec 1845 LEWIS CO. KENTUCKY

Pension Number: S*W2082 He filed for the pension himself and his widow also filed.

Service Description: 1) CAPTS HORD & BENJAMIN WHALEY, Pennsylvania Continental Line.
Also served with Colonel Floyd and George Rogers Clark in Kentucky, Served with Capt Haynes or Hynes company of rangers. John was commissioned a captain in 1789 when his captain died. Also served with Captain Harmer.

Wife: Christina Davis

Children: Rebeckah, David D., John W., Elizabeth, Susanna, Ann, Edward T. and Juan.

Note: He was a Justice of the Peace and High Sheriff of Kentucky.

Note 2: Both our John Doyle and this John Doyle served with George Rogers Clark, but this John Doyle served in Kentucky and our John Doyle served in Illinois. After the Revolution they both returned to the areas where they served.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

John Doyle and John Dyal and Revolutionary Records

This is the first half of the information presented by Stella Shamo at the John D. Lee reunion held September 2007.

Searching for information about John Doyle has been very confusing. There were at least 5 John Doyles who served in the Revolutionary War. Separating the John Doyles and their service has been difficult. An example of the confusion is illustrated by the information given by Rev. Edgar Woods in his book, History of Albemarle County in Virginia. Pages 52 and 53 give information about Dennis Doyle and his son, John Doyle, who served in the Revolution.


Woods, Rev. Edgar. History of Albemarle County in Virginia. 1901.(53)

This is an example of combining together information on at least two John Doyles who served in the military during the Revolutionary War. The information that refers to the John Doyle, ancestor of John D. Lee is:

"as in that year (1760) was born within its limits, John Doyle who was in all probability a son of Dennis. At the age of eighteen, John accompanied the march of General George Rogers Clark into the North West Territory. Returning to Albemarle he joined the army and served to the close of the Revolution."

The rest of the information pertains to one or two other John Doyles.

Stella knew that Illinois was part of the Northwest Territory and many of the records for the area are in Indiana. Stella wrote to the Indiana State Library regarding military records. She received a letter back telling her that they didn't have the staff to do the research she needed. But they made an exception to her request because they had recently celebrated the bicentennial of George Rogers Clark capture of Vincennes in Indiana.

Bottom part of the letter Stella received from the Indiana State Library


According to materials submitted to the library by Lt. Col. John A. Doyle of Cincinnati, Ohio, it appeared that there were two John Doyles who served with George Rogers Clark and Col. Doyle had separated them out.

"One signed his name John Dyal, but persons referred to him as Doyal. He was born in Winchester County, Virginia in 1762 and died in Lewis County, Kentucky in December 1845. This person appears to have been more involved in Clark's Kentucky campaign."

"The Doyle that settled in Illinois was probably born on the Doyle's Branch of Moorman's River in Albemarle County, Virginia. His father was Dennis Doyle who was an extensive land owner."


After receiving this information Stella wrote to Lt. Col. John A. Doyle. She was so disappointed to learn that Lt. Col. Doyle had died two weeks before receiving her letter!!

The person who responded to her letter was Dean A. Doyal of Virginia. He was an avid Doyle genealogist who volunteered at the Newport News Family History Center, although not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He had done a lot of research on Doyles and the derivatives of the Doyle name, and published a Doyle newsletter. It was through corresponding with him that Stella was able to separate the military records of John Doyle of Illinois and Dean Doyal's ancestor, John Dyal/Doyal of Kentucky. She received the following information from Dean Doyal about his ancestor. This information came from pension application records.

  • John Dyal was born in 1762 in Frederick Co. VA
  • He was the son of Edward Dyal, Jr.
  • He served with George Rogers Clark, mostly in Kentucky.
  • He served with Capts. Benjamin Whaley, Benjamin Fields, and Capt. Haynes.
  • He became a Major.
  • He married Christina Davis and had eight children.
  • He died in 1845 in Mason (later Lewis) Co. Kentucky.
  • He received a pension for his services.

Stella also sent a letter to the Virginia State Library requesting military information on John D. Lee's grandfather, John Doyle. She received two certificates of service, one showing that John Doyle served as a private in Captain Mark Thomas' Company in the Illinois Regiment. Capt. Mark Thomas recruited soldiers from Albemarle County and was one of the captains under Col. George Rogers Clark's command.

The second certificate showed John Doyle's service in the Virginia Continental Line.

Pension applications are a valuable resource of information, but John Doyle, John D. Lee's grandfather died before he could apply for a pension. His wife preceded him in death so she didn't apply for the pension either. After John D. Lee was a grown man, he and Charlotte applied for a pension on behalf of John Doyle, but his petition never left the committee. Through research done by Stella Shamo and Renee Durfee we have been able to piece together the following information on John Doyle:

  • John Doyle was born in 1760 in Albemarle Co., VA.
  • He was the son of Dennis Doyle, Jr.
  • He served with George Rogers Clark mostly in the Illinois area.
  • He served with Capt. Mark Thomas and the Virginia Continental Line.
  • He was a private.
  • He married Chloe Smith.
  • He died 1819 in Randolph Co. Illinois.
  • He did not receive a pension.
  • He did receive a bounty land warrant for 200 acres which he sold in April 1792 to Francis Graves.
Through the help of Lt. Col. John A. Doyle and Dean A. Doyal and Stella's research we have been able to clarify John D. Lee's grandfather's involvement in the military, which helps identify who he was and where he was more clearly.

These are two of John Doyle's records from the National Archive now found on microfilm at the FHL. Both show service in Clark's regiment serving in Illinois.